With me on the blog today is the fabulous Shari Swanson (another great Secret Gardener classmate; for others, click here and here), who is here to talk about her picture book, Honey, the Dog Who Saved Abe Lincoln, which was published by Katherine Tegen Books/HarperCollins and debuts today, people! Woot!
Shari is represented by John Rudolph. After Shari and I chat, I’ll fill you in on a giveaway of this very book. Now, let’s talk to Shari!
El Space: Four quick facts about yourself?
Shari: My favorite color is periwinkle. Actually, periwinkle is a favorite word, too. Perhaps I’ll write a book about Mr. Perry Winkle and his Phantasmagoric Adventures Through Color. (Dibs. 😀)
• I love games, all sorts—puzzles, mysteries, board games, sports, hiding pictures, and treasure hunting.
• I have a beloved dog named Honey, not, surprisingly, named after Abraham Lincoln’s dog.
• I love words—etymologies, derivations, roots, cadence, sound, rhyme—everything about words. When I was in high school, I read All About Words by Maxwell Nurnberg and Morris Rosenblum while suntanning on the beach. One of my favorite courses in college was linguistics.
El Space: How did you come to write this picture book about a dog and Abraham Lincoln? How long was the process of writing the book?
Shari: When I was teaching middle school literature early this millennia, we read about Abraham Lincoln’s early years from an excerpt of Russell Freedman’s book on Lincoln. It was fascinating. I hadn’t ever heard about Lincoln’s Kentucky years and wanted to know more. I thought perhaps children would like to read about Lincoln when he was their age. I had the pleasure of meeting the late Russell Freedman at an SCBWI conference in 2006 and told him how much I wanted to write a picture book expanding on those details from his book. With tears in his eyes, he encouraged me and told me what a wonderful picture book that would be. When I was deep in that research, I discovered Honey. Honey had saved Lincoln’s life! What would the world be like if we hadn’t had Abraham Lincoln? Honey was an unknown hero. Honey, I thought, would make a wonderful picture book. And then I set off to write that story. The first draft of my book was written when I was doing the picture book semester at VCFA, back in 2011. I sold it in 2016, and now it is finally in the world!
El Space: How did you get started writing picture books?
Shari: I’m not sure there is an easy answer to this. I’ve always loved picture books. But I didn’t always understand that I could write them. Somewhere along the line, I realized that you don’t have to be a master artist to write a picture book, and that made me think maybe I could try it. I took a course in picture books at UCLA Extension way back in the early 1990s, I think, so it’s been a lifelong dream. I enrolled in the picture book semester when I was at VCFA with Julie Larios, and a workshop just prior to that with Julie and Uma Krishnaswami. That six months was maybe my favorite in my entire education as it was so filled with play and words and sheer delight.
El Space: How much input did you have with the illustrator? What was your reaction to seeing the illustrations?
Shari: Every picture book author/illustrator interaction is probably different. My editor, Maria Barbo at HarperCollins/Katherine Tegen books, was wonderful at taking my thoughts and opinions into account at each stage of the process. First, she asked me if I had an illustrator in mind to suggest. That inquiry sent me on a delightful tour through bookstores and libraries, trying to find artists that had the right feel for Honey. When she suggested Chuck Groenink, she sent me links to his portfolio. [Click here for a post about Chuck and his process on another picture book.] We both loved his work, especially his use of light in dark scenes, a skill that would be important for the cavern scenes in Honey. Seeing Chuck’s first drafts for Honey was a highlight of my life. Right there in my hands was this charming beautifully-realized art bringing my words to life. As we moved forward, I had the ability at every stage to offer my thoughts. One suggestion that I am thrilled Chuck incorporated was adding more detail to the forest scenes. I wanted the readers to feel just how distracting the woods were, with all the sounds and animals, and have the reader be literally distracted by the detail on the page just as young Abe was distracted on his journey.
El Space: What picture books have inspired you as a kid? As an adult?
Shari: As a child, I loved Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak, A Snowy Day by Ezra Jack Keats, Are You My Mother, by P. D. Eastman, and all things Dr. Seuss. As an adult, I love picture books that are poetic and musical; those that have wildly creative art, perhaps looking at things from unusual perspectives, and those that celebrate characters who are not stereotypic.
El Space: Any advice for would-be picture book writers? What do you think a twenty-first century kid needs to see in a picture book?
Shari: My best advice it to read your work out loud. Notice where the pauses and awkward phrasings are so you can fix them. I also think it is hugely important to make a picture book dummy, eight sheets of paper folded in half to make 32 pages, and block out your story. Where are the breaks? Are there interesting page turns? Is there something that is illustratible on each page? Finally, don’t give up. Take the time to create as often as you can. The joy is in the journey. I’m not sure what a modern kid needs to see in a picture book. I hope in Honey, a modern reader can both identify with young Abe—his distractedness, his love for animals, his desire to help—and think about the differences, too, like how Abe walked miles alone through a wild dangerous forest, so that the book is both timeless and grounded in its time.
El Space: What will you work on next?
Shari: I have several more works in progress, but the one getting my immediate attention is a non-fiction picture book, another heartwarming story of an animal/human interaction, this one from WWII.
Thanks, Shari, for being my guest!
Looking for Shari? Look no further than her website, Twitter, or Pinterest.
Looking for Honey, the Dog Who Saved Abe Lincoln? Check out your local bookstore, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Indiebound.
One of you will receive a copy of Honey, the Dog Who Saved Abe Lincoln in your very own mailbox. Just comment below! Winner to be revealed January 20, 2020.
The first meeting of the picture book club almost ended in a fistfight. While Lazy Buns and the Squeezamal agreed that Honey, the Dog Who Saved Abe Lincoln, is a great book, they disagreed on the refreshments, or the lack thereof. “It was your job to bring tea with honey for us to share!” the Squeezamal grumbled, Lazy Buns having only remembered to bring herself a cup of coffee.
Author photo by Christie Lane Photography. Book covers, with the exception of Shari’s book, are from Goodreads. Periwinkle flower from Wikipedia. Book storyboard from somewhere on the internet. Other photo by L. Marie. Squeezamals are a product of Beverly Hills Teddy Bear Company. Lazy Buns is a Pop Hair Pet, a product of MGA Entertainment.
It’s great to meet you, Shari! Congratulations on your recent publication. A Snowy Day and Are You My Mother are two of my childhood favorites, too. Thanks for the interview, L. Marie!
You’re welcome, Jill! They are my favorites too. 😀 I wonder if they also will inspire you to write a picture book at some point. 😁
Thank you, Jill! And thank you, L. Marie, for these fun and thought-provoking questions!
Always glad to feature you on the blog, Shari!
Reblogged this on Legends of Windemere.
Thank you for the reblog, Charles! 😀
You’re welcome
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Thank you, Charles! 😁
You’re welcome.
There’s a lot to like here! First of all, L. Marie thanks for introducing us to Shari.
Periwinkle is a favorite color too. My daughter’s bridesmaids were decked out in this hue.
Shari, I’m a hearty believer in reading a manuscript out loud. Your ear will catch what the eye tends to gloss over. Thank you too for the graphic of a picture book layout, which may turn out to be my next writing challenge.
I’m glad to have Shari on the blog, Marian! 😁 Periwinkle is a beautiful color, particularly for bridesmaids.
I also read manuscripts out loud. Good for catching sentence constructions that someone might stumble over.
Hope you will write a picture book!
Yes! And your ear will catch the ‘melody’ to help give your text a lyrical feel.
Great interview, Linda and Shari. And congrats, Shari! So happy for you! What a beautiful cover, and the story sounds fascinating. My copy should be here today. Can’t wait to read!!
Mine too, Sharon! Can’t wait!
Thank you, Sharon! 🥰
Oh my goodness – that cover is going to draw young readers right into the story immediately! Thanks for bringing us a new twist on everything we thought we knew about Abe Lincoln.
It is a great cover. So inviting.😀
Thank you, Cathy! I love that cover, too. Chuck really captures the love between a boy and his dog. I feel so lucky to be able to share this story with the world.
L. Marie – yet another bright blooming Secret Gardener!
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Shari: I particularly enjoyed reading your process and hearing you got to meet with the inspiration/encourager for your slice of the Abe Lincoln story…very cool. Congrats on the release!
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Yes another in the garden! So happy for Shari!
Thank you, Laura! Russell Freedman was a wonderful writer and such a lovely man. If you look on my website, I have a picture of his inscription to me, urging me to write about Austin (Abe’s best friend and my primary source). I am forever grateful to Russell. A little bit of encouragement goes a long way.
Congratulations, Shari! This sounds like a wonderful story that kids will love, and I’m eager to see the scenes in the cave and how the illustrator handled them. It must have been a thrill to see your story with the pictures.
My copy just arrived! Can’t wait to read it!
Thank you, Lyn! It feels like a dream come true. 🥰 Those dark creepy scenes are my favorite. Lol
What a great idea for a picture book. The world is a better place . . . thanks to Abe Lincoln AND Honey!
I am going to join the Picture Book Club. I’ll bring Hot Toddy’s with HONEY!
Yay! Much appreciated, Nancy! Today is very cold and dreary, so very appropriate! 😀
Yay! Thank you, Nancy! Love this. (And my husband is named Todd and my dog is Honey, so I’m set.) 😂
I enjoyed your interview with Shari and her inspirations. It’s fascinating to learn what brings out the creativity in any author. I’m found of periwinkle, too. Just so you know! Thanks for this post.
Yay! So glad! Periwinkle is indeed lovely. Clothing-wise, I usually think of it in spring or summer.
Thank you, Ally. Yay periwinkle, and isn’t that such a happy word?
Good luck to Shari – sounds like the sort of book I’d have loved as a kid! Fun factlet: In her book Hospital Sketches, Louisa May Alcott gives herself the pseudonym Tribulation Periwinkle…
L. Marie, as usual please don’t enter me – childfree zone!
Tribulation Periwinkle?? Yikes. That’s a mouthful! 😀 Now I’m thinking of other colorful names: Danger Blue. Victorious Vermilion.
LOVED this. Many moons ago, 5th grade, students in Illinois studied Illinois history with an emphasis on Abraham Lincoln. It was quite extensive and left me with a life-long interest in Abe, but, I confess I never heard of Honey! How exciting to learn. Thank you to Shari for bringing this story to life for children and others (me) to learn and enjoy. I love the cover!
Thanks for another great interview, L. Marie. Stay warm, today.
I feel so grateful to have found a story about Lincoln that isn’t widely known. It’s like discovering a giant gold nugget long after the gold rush wound down. And I am especially glad that the story takes place while his mom was still alive as so little is written about her, and Abe adored her. Those Kentucky days, in general, aren’t in very many of the books. I’m glad people will learn about Honey, an American hero! 😁 🐕
Yay!
Shari, have you been to the Lincoln home and/or the Lincoln presidential library in Springfield, IL? They have a reproduction of what the cabin might have been like. Your book would be an excellent addition to their gift shop.
No, I have not been to Illinois but would love to visit those places! One cool thing about the cabin replica in Kentucky is it was made with the logs from Austin’s cabin after he passed. Austin was Abe’s best friend and my primary source.
I’ve been there. 😀 If you are a student in Illinois, at some point you will visit Springfield and see those sights. 😀
Yay!
Yes, in the Land of Lincoln, we learn a lot about Lincoln!
Trying to stay warm. Oh man! 🥶
Wow! I read this twice. Thank you for the introduction to Shari. Your book sounds wonderful. I will certainly check it out, as reading aloud to my preschoolers is #1. I so enjoyed reading how you came to write picture books. Your 32 page breakout, and reading it aloud, are excellent points. Of course I love your favorite childhood books! Did you know that the illustrations from The Snowy Day were cut-out linoleum? They were marvelous to see. Thank you, L. Marie and Shari!
Your kids will love this book, Jennie.
I didn’t know that about the Snow Day illustrations. How clever!
Thank you so much, Jennie! I did not know that about The Snowy Day. It seems like a hard medium to work with, but I love collage. Eric Carle and Leone and now Oge Mora are among my favorites!
I know they will like the book! And yes, very clever illustrations.