We’re back for round 2 of the writer’s process discussion with the marvelous Miriam McNamara. And thanks to Dreamland’s Insurgents, you can hum along to the suggested theme music here. Meanwhile, I’m really wishing I had a bagel right about now.
For those of you just tuning in, this is part two of the discussion, so you might want to refer back to part 1 if you haven’t already done so. You’ll find Miriam’s bio there. And as a reminder, Miriam’s young adult novel is The Unbinding of Mary Reade. Thanks to all of you for your comments. They really mean a lot. Now, on with the discussion.
El Space: Tell us about your main character. How is she like you? Different from you?
Miriam: Mary is raised as a boy—her dead half-brother Mark—in order to scam money out of Mark’s relatively wealthy grandmother. This deception keeps them out of utter poverty, so their lives really depend on Mary pretending to be someone she isn’t from the time she is very young. This shapes her character in a profound way. She yearns to be like other girls, but her upbringing ensures that she is like no one at all.
She’s not a boy, but she’s not a proper girl either. Her desire for the neighbor boy, and eventually for Anne Bonny, push her to explore different identities throughout the novel as she tries to figure out who she is.
I gave Mary my own confusion about who I was when I was a teenager. I also spent many years as a young adult trying on different identities/presentations in my quest to figure out who I was. I’ve also given her the strength of my desire and my imagination; the way she fantasizes and desires authentic love and belonging comes straight from my own heart. And I’ve given her a fluid sexuality like mine; she is attracted to boys and girls. But she’s very different from me, too.
I based some elements of her character on boys and girls I know that struggled even more with gender identity than I have. Her childhood was radically restricted by having to pretend to be a different gender than she knew she was inside, similar to the experience of some transgender and genderqueer people. She falls a lot closer to “boyish” on the gender spectrum than the average eighteenth-century girl, but she still identifies as female—the sex she was born with. She isn’t transgender, but she does fall somewhere that isn’t easily categorized. I love that complexity.
El Space: And the more complex the character, the more compelling the story. Intriguing, Miriam! Okay, we all know about the success of Pirates of the Caribbean. How did the success of this series affect the way you approached your story? Was it more or less difficult to write because of characters like Elizabeth Swann (played by Kiera Knightley) and Captain Jack Sparrow (played by Johnny Depp)? Why?
Miriam: You know, the pirate captain in my story is the very pirate that the character Jack Sparrow is based on. Isn’t that insane?
His name is Jack as well, and I’ve had people tell me that I need to change his name, and make him less flamboyant. But those are two things I just can’t change—that’s who the real Jack Rackham was! I didn’t base my character on the movie character at all—so in my head, at least, Jack Rackham is a very different person than Jack Sparrow.
El Space: Johnny Depp showed such complexity in his performance. He definitely marked this character as his own. How did you shape Jack’s character in your novel?
Miriam: In the first scene that Jack appears in my novel, he makes a very flamboyant entrance—but as the novel progresses, he becomes more and more intricate and human, while I think Jack Sparrow remains that flamboyant, fantastical character throughout the movie series. My story is not fantasy, which POC and most well-known pirate characters are.
El Space: Your Jack sounds colorful and alive in the way of great characters in great fiction. Awesome! To wrap up, any advice for someone about to use a well-known trope in a story?
Miriam: There are reasons that we are attracted to tropes and use them in our stories over and over again. Strong desire and powerful conflict are embedded automatically. For me, I was attracted to pirates in general, and Mary and Anne in particular, but the initial reasons were shallow. Romance! Adventure! I didn’t know what I really wanted to say. But as I started exploring these characters and their world, I realized this story communicated important ideas that I hadn’t read before.
Mary ended up being a unique character that helped me explore my own thoughts on issues that matter a lot to me. I guess that’s the challenge: taking a trope—a ready-made, flat character—and making it into something that can surprise people and make them question the stereotypes they have. If you, the writer, can look beyond the trope and find a unique character, you can force your readers to look more closely at their own assumptions about the world.
Sadly, we’ve come to the end, as all good things do. Thanks again, Miriam, for sharing your process. This has been great! Give it up for Miriam, everyone! If you have questions or comments for Miriam about her process, please comment below.
From LOL Cats
Photo of Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow is from mariouana.com. Mary Reade image from mrugala.net. Calico Jack image from thepiratesrealm.com. For more information on Mary Reade, click here and here.
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Whoot is right! Thanks for coming by!
Why thank you. 🙂
I love this one, too! Her characters sound quite fascinating…I really enjoyed her responses on how they are different/similar to each of their historical figure and the movie character counterparts. It helped that I am such a huge fan of “Pirates of the Caribbean”. And I learnt something new…I didn’t know what a trope was until now (I never even knew it existed). 😉
Thanks for the great post! You ask very smart questions that make the interviewees think and respond with more than just two words. I hope that there is more to come!
Aww, Will, you’re too kind. A good article on tropes for you to consider is http://www.authorsalon.com/page/general/fantasytropes/ (Restoring the Troll Trope: Concepts and Solutions Regarding the Use of Tropes in New Fantasy Fiction). I found it very helpful! And yes, there are more process posts to come! Thanks for commenting!
Oh wow, thanks for the link! That really was an interesting article. I’m definitely saving that one in my bookmarks. I liked that it was actually from an editor/publisher…that was cool because it gave the perspective of the person who would read your manuscript and, since I live in fantasy and sci-fi, it was right up my alley. Thanks for that! 🙂
Glad it was helpful. Another great article is “Lost and Found: The Orphaned Hero in Myth, Folklore, and Fantasy,” by Terri Windling (http://www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/rrOrphans.html).
Thanks so much! Linda is an AWESOME interviewer–it was such a pleasure to have a chance to share my thoughts. I can’t wait to follow the rest of these interviews myself!
I’m only awesome because of my wonderful friends! (Looking at you, Miriam.)
Indeed she is an awesome interviewer, yet I couldn’t help but be engaged by your responses. I’m interested in hearing more about your work.
I passed your comments on to Miriam, Will. Thanks for stopping by!
Linda – I agree with wlouson above that your questions are excellent!
Miriam – I appreciate the level of honesty that you shared in terms of your own experience when answering these questions. You are bringing a level of emotional depth to this story that reader will appreciate — along with the exciting adventure and yummy romance 😉
And that’s the key, isn’t it, Laura: emotional depth. You and I have had that discussion about “going there” with our characters. I often pull back in the hard scenes, rather than provide emotional depth.
Thanks so much Laura! I loved your interview as well. Isn’t Linda amazing? 🙂
I think everyone benefits when the author is able to “go there” emotionally with the character. The readers will definitely connect more deeply with the story–but I feel that, as the writer, I’m the one really benefitting from this relationship with my protagonist. I’ve learned so much!
Writing is so strange and awesome.
You have a great voice,L. Interesting interview!
Thank you, Janice! Hope you’re doing well.
Yay! Again, Miriam, I am so excited about this novel! I was just telling a friend about it the other day. I love that you explore Mary’s gender and sexuality. And I had no idea that Jack Sparrow was based on Jack Rackham. That’s so cool.